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[chumak]

I have seen a hero going from 6K skills to 9K in 4 months. This includes leveling 60 levels in that same amount of time.

In May particular hero had 5,5K skills, 260/ In June he got to 7K+. Now hero is 16K-2K-9K-8K, 322.

There was a switch between 2 teams. Last one, I think, is in top 10.

I understand the gear vs level, but to me this is quite a huge jump in a very short, in my opinion, game time.

I just don't get it.

Maybe Pro's can explain it to me.

Cheers

[centella]

takes a good bunch of circumstances

 

1. be in a real good team ( specially in US1 and US2, in US3 could be be part of a top 20 team than eventually that team refers you to their main team who is on top of the list when an opening comes up ) that has lots of training and maybe some energy trophies

2. work on your hideout, specially base, exp room, brokerage and workshop so you can make yourself stronger, and have better gears opportunities

3. Train, Train, did I said already train?  and get lot of coins in missions and save save and save ( for the eventual 100 millions shop spree by buying skill points ) and make sure to use all the free energy and to do all 4 extensions EVERY DAY

4. after doing that, now keep saving coins and in opportune times keep buying skill points

 

those are the 4 most important and basic keys

[ErmaEmpath]

Impressive  you are watching other heroes so closely.   I suggest you mail that hero directly , compliment them, and ask them how in the heck did they do that.

Do the math with the training trophies and you will get a minimum of 2240 gain in 4 months if you do all training everyday.  That does not include the extra training from villain and rewards.  

Some heroes live on the computer to get every villain and do all rounds of energy everyday.

Also some are expert at the special  missions and can run through all of them in one week that gives them lots of extra experience points to level up fast. 

[chumak]

takes a good bunch of circumstances

 

1. be in a real good team ( specially in US1 and US2, in US3 could be be part of a top 20 team than eventually that team refers you to their main team who is on top of the list when an opening comes up ) that has lots of training and maybe some energy trophies

2. work on your hideout, specially base, exp room, brokerage and workshop so you can make yourself stronger, and have better gears opportunities

3. Train, Train, did I said already train?  and get lot of coins in missions and save save and save ( for the eventual 100 millions shop spree by buying skill points ) and make sure to use all the free energy and to do all 4 extensions EVERY DAY

4. after doing that, now keep saving coins and in opportune times keep buying skill points

 

those are the 4 most important and basic keys

1. Hero is the leader with 5 trophies, just checked. top 10. All 5 are energy

2. Way better than me, I assume doughnut spender.

3. Train. Doing that myself, Nowhere near.

4. Saving. Nowhere near 50 million. Although I spent 15 million early on, before reading the forum.

When he was in the same team he was the top player before he left. 55% expansion to a 100%

Edited by chumak, 06 September 2017 - 10:31 PM.

[chumak]

Impressive  you are watching other heroes so closely.   I suggest you mail that hero directly , compliment them, and ask them how in the heck did they do that.

Do the math with the training trophies and you will get a minimum of 2240 gain in 4 months if you do all training everyday.  That does not include the extra training from villain and rewards.  

Some heroes live on the computer to get every villain and do all rounds of energy everyday.

Also some are expert at the special  missions and can run through all of them in one week that gives them lots of extra experience points to level up fast. 

Yeah... I really should

training trophies. Ok. Not very lucky to keep any at a present time

All rounds of energy, including doughnuts? Never went past coins.

I wonder what does it mean to be an expert in SM....? Seems to be a bit of a secret.

[centella]

except early on ( when it was like 10 donuts at most and only sparingly )  I have never used those donuts, I used only patience

 

even my us2 toon ( most recent and lowest in levels )

 

I started my toon Mid February this year

 

Base = level 18, generator on its side = level 15

Experience room = level 8 ( should work to get it to at least level 12 ) and its generator level 7

Brokerage level 10 ( no money expended on updates now )

work bot level 17 ( so it works faster, less time to complete tasks )

workshop bench = level 13 ( higher level, better mods and help teammates also to be better quality mods )

 

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about extensions of missions

 

BELIEVE IT OR NOT ( specially with help of base in hideout )

 

if you do JUST coins extensions even the 4th one and concentrate on coins as much as possible, you should end each day with more coins than when you started the day

Edited by centella, 06 September 2017 - 10:38 PM.

[chumak]

1. Takes a lot of patience to wait for upgrades or expansions

 I finally bought a second worker in March, so I am 3 months late. Including workaround the HO --- wasn't efficient at all

working on defenses atm. My log is all red

PS: So what? No General Guide? Every game forum has one. Your reputation is the top. So why not?

[chumak]

Impressive  you are watching other heroes so closely.   I suggest you mail that hero directly , compliment them, and ask them how in the heck did they do that.

I got an answer, "just lucky i guess :P"

Deal with that

[Lacatus]

Is simple
1. Trainings = 500sp (no trophies-> 204 trainings x 2.46 from team, booster, league and item set)
2. Trainings from deeds and villain = 275sp (112point multiplie like at point 1)
3. 100.000.000 used= at thay lvl can be 100.000/lvl= 2460sp (1000sp x 2.46)

Total > 3.000sp

[Lacatus]

About lvl-up here is extremely easy with 5energy
400energy daily= 29.000.000xp in 4 months. Minimum.

Edited by Lacatus, 07 September 2017 - 04:26 AM.

[chumak]

what does "SP" stand for?

villains have been an issue. Or maybe still are issue. Labour day does not count.

Sounds easy.

300 energy+lousy villains that flee most of the time, Up til now, thanks to YOU.

Maybe he is lucky and I am not so much

 

PS: People wonder how to keep people in a game. I wonder what I should do to keep people in the team AND in the game.

 

Thank you all for response. Didn't understand anything, but, thank God, not stupid enough to not get a general idea

[Lacatus]

Sp=skill points
You can exclude villains and is still over 3.000
We talk about that guy who did a jump from 6k to 9k ..right?

[chumak]

Sp=skill points
You can exclude villains and is still over 3.000
We talk about that guy who did a jump from 6k to 9k ..right?

yep!

Sorry, every game has different shorts. SP here may mean totally different thing in other games

[chumak]

Is simple
1. Trainings = 500sp (no trophies-> 204 trainings x 2.46 from team, booster, league and item set)
2. Trainings from deeds and villain = 275sp (112point multiplie like at point 1)
3. 100.000.000 used= at thay lvl can be 100.000/lvl= 2460sp (1000sp x 2.46)

Total > 3.000sp

wow, hold on there.

204 training points??? Where does that come from???

Regular, including boost, no doughnuts, is 14 points. where do 200 come from?

112 training points from deeds and villains?

where does it work out this way??? US2?

[Lacatus]

wow, hold on there.
204 training points??? Where does that come from???
Regular, including boost, no doughnuts, is 14 points. where do 200 come from?
112 training points from deeds and villains?
where does it work out this way??? US2?

Ohh I did a mistake...3000 skill points are not enough. If he was a better player he should made more than 5000. Are you sure u play HZ?
He did the jump in 4months, his team doesn't have training trophies so he do only 10 trainings + 7 from team bonus/ day
(10+7=17/day)x120days=2040training..(2040/10)x5=1020skill points x 2.46=2500sp
If he catch villain every day= Maximum 8 trainings/day
8x120=960trainings=480sp x 2.46=1180(ideal..let's say he catch villain once at 4days so 240sp)
And here comes 100.000.000 he doesn't need this to do 3000sp.
Q.E.D.

Edited by Lacatus, 07 September 2017 - 10:50 AM.

[chumak]

you are describing 1attribute. I am talking about all 4

Ok

Let's do meth... I mean math

14x30=420/month/attribute. Basics. We can add 200 points per month, just to go nutts =620/1attribute/1month

I will go as far as 1K per month per attribute.

how does one pull 4K in 2 months??? on all 4(!)

Edited by chumak, 07 September 2017 - 07:00 PM.

[centella]

the added 4K is not just SPs only

 

we have to remember added bonuses, better gears, better mods AND when you get and use an SP, because of bonuses and such your  stats increases anywhere between 1 to as much as 4 per attribute ( Strength, Stamina, brain or intuition )

 

so I can see easily those added 4Ks per attribute

[chumak]

the added 4K is not just SPs only

 

we have to remember added bonuses, better gears, better mods AND when you get and use an SP, because of bonuses and such your  stats increases anywhere between 1 to as much as 4 per attribute ( Strength, Stamina, brain or intuition )

 

so I can see easily those added 4Ks per attribute

True. My bad.

 

Thank you.