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#41 wogalito

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 03:48 AM

Lol , you have hit the nail on the head Udareutake , no new team can reach rank 1 , BECUSE THER HAVE BEEN 4 TRAINING TROPHYS AND 1 ENERGY TROPHY REMOVED FROM THE SERVER !!! If ther was not an army of ALTS ( multiple accounts/multiple players of one account) protecting your team then all the trophys would be in play , this would allow ALL teams , new or existing to reach the top of rankings. Courage drops are not new ? nor is it some thing that Dark Wing is not fammiliar with themselfs ? Every one has also had revis in ther team to ther regret :P .

Hypothetical no.1 , 1% increese to penalty beyond day 1  suggested by cannonman, i think would be the best option so far , i disagree it would be worse for newer teams than us longer running teams , why they would not be able to hold the trophys for as long as us at the start , the diligent teams would build them self up to be able to over time.

Hypothetical no.2 reseting trophys on the server at set time periods.This idea seems to be disruptive to the server , unless ther was an inactivity and skill objective system added to trophy dispersions , so as to make it more common to end up in newer teams hands , but this would only lead to team hopping i feel.

Hypothetical no.3 I agree is pointless as it rewards the accused.

Hypothetical no.4 Adding more trophys to the server. The amount of trophys needed on any server is only incremental to the amount of players on a server , if ther are teams filled with inactive and alt members then ther is no need for trophys to accure for them.I am sure herozero all ready has a system in place to deal with this.

ADD : Hypothetical no.5 Penalty from trophy holding is ajusted to 15% or 20% per trophy. This would mean , at 15% a strong team could hold 5 trophys, at 20% a team with 5 trophys was sure to loose 1 trophy. This would allow newer teams a greater chance of holding trophys and also to spread trophys between more teams , allowing players in teams without alts to benifit from bonuses.

 As your post shows stalemate you forget about the rest of server , you are not the only players that toil , the server is full of us. Your comments are a rave , so i wont.

 To conclude , that shows that 3 major opposing teams agree that an increese to trophy penaltys is an aceptable way to solve this problem !

 May i add however , the topic of increesing trophy penalty outright has not been discused , yet an indeterminable increese is aceptable.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 07:59 AM

Come on people. We're arguing about a BROWSER GAME. Oh no, Dark Wing can't be beat! Who cares? If you feel they are unbeatable, don't go for first. Second is surely good enough if first is unreachable. All of this arguing is accomplishing nothing.If they truly are unbeatable, which it seems they are, if anything we should be congratulating them. It might make us look bad, but it's a damn good effort to make such a gap that the only way to close it is for them to stop playing. Lets accept it, and move on to see who can do the same thing with second place. Will it be us? I don't know. But, it will be interesting to find out.


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#43 UDareUTake

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:15 AM

Well, Wog, it still seems you fail to see the point that a new player can never catch up (Doesnt matter how many trophies DW hold). No matter what, I hope you can see that. If the top players in the game quit playing, it would take more than 1 year worth of play (Doing all refills daily+trainings+good trophies+a fully expanded team) in order for a new player to barely catch up. And one year is a long time in this browser game,

 

But that aside, as I've mentioned multiple times before, No one is stopping/preventing or even rejecting any ideas/suggestions provided to improve or change the situation.

 

The only reason why I continue to address your posts is because of all the slandering from you. Like I've mentioned before, if you have any evidence of any of my members abusing other players, and show any conduct of cyber bullying, or attempt to purchase any game accounts, let me know.

 

And for many times, you spoke on behalf of the entire server, I am not very sure everyone shares the same sentiments as you.

 

So once again let me repeat myself. Submit your compiled suggestion on a proper new thread to address the trophy issue directly insteading of slandering DW, and I will support the thread and hopefully, if more people agree to the suggestion the devs might take notice of it, or even implement it.

 

@Toolshed,

 

At least you can see the effort DW members have made, not everyone is dedicated enough to use all refills+energy daily..

I am tired of all these drama from Wog's accusations, I appreciate your response towards this issue.


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#44 wogalito

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:43 AM

lol its hard work to fight un-loosable fights ? wow thats either gutless or just outright rubish. FACT : Lots of teams can beat dw , they are just not allowed to attack them !!! yes i said NOT ALLOWED , not becuse we cant click on the "attack dw" symbol , becuse HeroZero wont do a thing to stop them from useing ALTS/multiple accounts/brought accounts to protect them selfs from fights. Ther a huge ammount of possabilitys from stoping this from occuring , such as removing ALL accounts which wher created in one country and yet seem to now play from another country. Unless dw are going to say herozero players change ther country of liveing greater than any other game on the net ? Face it , how often do people change the country they live in ? By adding an ip trace program to log in , if ther are multiple accounts logging in from the same ip adress , its either a huge family or MULTIPLE ACCOUNTING !!! I know full well that i am not the only player on the us1 server who has not been aproached by over 50 players to buy my account , so any statements from any one that they are unaware of account buying is an out right LIE !!!  UDareUTake i am not saying every member of dw participates in these WEAK activitys of trying to protect ther trophys , but any one from advisory claiming to have no knowledge of them is not only lieing to them selfs , but INTENTIONLY lieing to every one else. Lies are used to decive , deceptions are used becuse they know they are being dishonest , if it was honest , they would openly do it , not hide. This is no longer a discussion on if this is right or wrong , as every one has shown its a fault , this is now about why isnt herozero doing any thing about it, and what do they intend to do about it ? If some one offers me advice to improve my work enviroment , i implement it that day , and would expect to be sacked if i ignored it. Why some people come to herozero as a casual game to play , most aproach it as ther game of choice for games to play on the net . It is however a buisness , ran by the HeroZero team , but i am afraid to say it does not instill much confidence in ther credability when they ignore the advice to fix MAJOR problems. I certainly would not invest more money into a broken product if ther is no chance of it being corrected. A poll on this matter will be available shortly.

  Thank you to all players for ther comments on this topic , appolagies to any one that felt personaly attacked by comments posted on this topic , appolagies to members of Dark Wing that are not involved in any underhanded acts to steal trophys from server.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 02:22 PM

Well seeing as this thread no longer is about development lets make it fun!

 

Seeing as no teams in the top ten like each other anymore much less can get along why don't we just split the whole server into good and evil. I mean we don't drop many villains anymore so why don't we ad in boss tactics like boosts to either side for a few hours after they down a villain from the others side. might make people want to attack again. And an actual war on the server with both sides attacking each other in an all out battle might be fun no one would lose anything but for like certain days like specifically chosen we could choose teams to attack and just go at it till all had lost on one side or something and the winners could get something like donuts 5-10 or some exp/coins not to much, more about can you down the other side.

 

For this idea I'm assuming that only teams over a certain honor limit could participate like those over 30k honor choose to be hero's/villains. 

 

We need some kind of new content gain or something so lets really pit people against each other. heck most things can stay but do some random global events or something that makes us compete against each other. 

 

But lets not forget why this thread was created TO HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

We are DARK WING, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HATE US WE HID ALL OUR TREASURE IN ONE PLACE BUT YOU HAVE TO FIND IT FIRST!!!

 

OR

 

We are DARK WING, KING KONG AINT GOT NOTHING ON US!!!!, (Short of size,most likely weight, ability to peel bananas, and speed to climb towers). BUT BESIDES THAT NOTHING!!

 

But back to a more serious note if you read this and liked it good if you thought it was dumb then sorry but if I made you laugh/chuckle even once then be happy that you still can smile.

 

Wog we love you at DW without this random thread going on we would be bored to tears, if you ever want to join us well lets stay distant friends but still have some fun again the hate cant be good for you.

 

IF I wasn't able to make you smile this might good luck and god bless people.


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Posted 17 February 2014 - 07:07 PM

Well seeing as this thread no longer is about development lets make it fun!

 

 

I'm not sure this post was ever about game development... but it was an eye opener a few months back when I was still very new to the game... 

 

At first I wasn't really sure what all the fuss was about... to be honest, I read this post and I was rather confused... at that time I was in a really lovely team and we were so excited when we won any trophy, including courage trophies... we had fun and that is why I play this game... no point playing something that stresses you out, in my opinion... 

 

Anyway... after a short while of reading this post, I realised that if I were to ever leave my team, then the only team I would want to join is Dark Wing... and all because of this post... the posts by the DW members have all been well answered and respectful... there was no name calling... and all the replies actually make sense... 

 

And since joining DW, I have had a blast!  The people in this team are wonderful and funny and I still have fun playing this game... (even with my terrible time restraints)... 

 

My opinion of this post is that it is a platform to slander DW and its members and to create drama... UDare has offered a number of solutions and has agreed on a number of the issues brought up... and when this thread is bumped with a new post (after being dead for a month or more), it is just to bad mouth DW some more... 

 

I understand that there are bad feelings toward DW... that comes with the territory, as far as I'm concerned, because any team that is at the top is going to have people that dislike them for any number of reasons... for me, I am proud to be a member of Dark Wing because I get to spend my game time in a fun, intelligent and drama free environment...  :)

 

For me, I have absolutely no issues or bad feelings toward anyone playing this game, or any team... I'm here to have fun and enjoy myself and if it ever stops being fun... well then I guess I'll stop playing... but until then, it would be great to get past the ill feelings towards DW and lets all put our energy into well thought out suggestions to actually make the game better for all of us...  :)


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