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#1 ErmaEmpath

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 03:43 PM

WE   need to keep this at the front of the issues.

HZ needs to look at the servers and see the same heroes win every week. 

This is worse than it was in honor tournament 

and they got rid of honor tournament. 

They can get rid of league tournament also 

or make it so lower levels can win skill points also. 

HZ ... look at USserver 2    .... The same heroes win every week 

this is an unfair advantage for them. 

Come On !  



#2 BetaTester

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 06:24 PM

There are a few things that I would like to point out about league and your problem Erma.

 

1. You're now in my old team (just saying).

2. League right now is and isn't broken.  The hero selection is wrong, and the rewards are just a joke.

 

If you don't want to read what I want to see why and comparing the league to another game, then don't bother reading anything in this font (99% will anyway).

 

So ever since the new update in HZ, I've been trying to find other new games to play.  I found one, but I won't say the name.  The game had an arena (same as league) with different modes.  Once you are in a certain rank, you would earn certain rewards daily and weekly.  The rewards were similar to coins and donuts with some more in-game items.  I see what HZ is trying to do, but they need to revise the whole league system.  The rewards aren't good at all, we're getting 3 opponents with higher points than our current (2 should be max), and most people are now looking league is useless.

 

3. The reason why servers like US2 (I only have a US3 account) have the same players winning is because this game is losing too many good and active players.  Even some of the strongest players are considering quitting.  The way to earn donuts is the cause.

 

4.  League is only good for getting that skill point % boost and spare coins.  You can't call league totally useless.

 

Edit: If I said something wrong, please quote what I've said and tell me why I'm wrong.


Edited by BetaTester, 18 October 2017 - 06:43 PM.

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#3 centella

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 07:19 PM

the way they changed it in order to make it a tournament is the main problem specially when only the "superheroes" can fight for the prizes ( in US1 there are only 27 people eligible, all others either can't or  the bottom of the 27 keep alternating with top of champ 1 each week .......... and US2 barely has 31 or 1 more than the max number of people getting prizes )

 

before when it was just about the bonus to stats and coins gained, it was good even if only 3 choices were available ( I think should be 5 )


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Bring back Honor Tournament with these changes http://forum.us.hero...nor-tournament/


#4 chumak

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:56 PM

so wait till everyone else gets stronger and system will balance itself out.

 

Because revising the whole system is... what fans usually do :)

 

What's the difference between 3 people that I can't beat or 5?



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 10:22 PM

you know that the top 10 of League get the rewards and get further away from everyone else, don't you? and superheroes is only ones who get prizes

 

and 5 makes it more likely to get NON_TEAMMATES, the main issue for most people is that, not getting hard to beat constantly


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Bring back Honor Tournament with these changes http://forum.us.hero...nor-tournament/


#6 chumak

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 10:49 PM

well, how many heroes are above 250K in honor points? 20? 50?

Same thing.

Personally, I don't care, I am 6K below Champion I. So as 3 quarters of all players on US3.

And from what I see on the forum (about amount of members), not a whole lot of heroes care much either.

Otherwise, all your teammates would be involved in the process.

Alas, they are not.

Case closed.



#7 centella

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:41 PM

I do not look at "honor points" or even league points as a lot of times they depend on match ups they choose and of basic stats plus what gear they have and their booster

 

lot of people high in honor, if we look at stats average, they might be 75th in honor, but stats wise they would be actually 150th, and someone who does not fight honor, and is 350th, stats wise might be top 40


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#8 chumak

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 01:02 AM

... but if you have high honor, wouldn't it mean, that you have better chances kicking people around?

because if I jump ahead, I get pummeled instantly. But if I stay in a safe zone, I win more often than less.

 

Oh well...



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 01:13 AM

is all about who chooses whom to fight, and how many times

 

High honor just means someone low honor if they win they get higher honor points

 

levels is factor for how many coins

 

 

so let's say someone with just 2000 honor but level 400 can get LOTS of honor from someone level 100 but with 100,000 honor but not much coins, and if level 100 wins, very little honor but lots of coins


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Bring back Honor Tournament with these changes http://forum.us.hero...nor-tournament/


#10 chumak

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 01:38 AM

so that's why everyone goes naked all the time...

because if I don't fight, I level up by passively winning against those who fight me.

There are quite a lot of players like myself, leaving very little choice to jump over my head, though



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 01:59 AM

with death of honor tourney, now everything is about the coins in the duels, it does not really matter who has the highest honor, deeds counts wins so let's say I was 75K honor

 

a win vs someone with 230K is equal to I choosing to win against someone with 5K honor, it does not matter if I get 200 honor points with one or no honor points with the other one. daily or weekly wise, both are the same.


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Bring back Honor Tournament with these changes http://forum.us.hero...nor-tournament/


#12 chumak

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:05 AM

yeah, I know, but you want to return it.

I just didn't see too many people interested in it much.

 

Oh, and how come your teammates don't support you here on the forum? That would give you +30 strong, at least, no?



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:40 AM

about 7 or 8 voted about wanting to hear my idea of bringing honor back

 

none said no

 

most people just come here as "guests" and read the info

 

the % speaks volumes more than doing it by sheer number and assuming "if there was no more votes, means they voted "no" even if they did not actually vote"


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Bring back Honor Tournament with these changes http://forum.us.hero...nor-tournament/


#14 chumak

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:49 AM

well, I don't know.

Most people go by numbers, not %. Not just votes, but amount of different members voicing their support or dismay.

5 pages on the subject by 30 different members is waaay different than 5 pages by 3-5 members.

Personally, I would react to high numbers of respondents and would neglect the latter.

At least that is how it works in real life ;)



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:32 AM

I prefer to view the USA going by getting opinions of 200 people from 20 different cities from around the USA ( midwest, pacific coast, south states, Northeast, texas, Florida ) than to do it by getting opinions from 4000 people from just Texas ;)

 

one has to be smart about how you view things

 

the classic misleading

 

"my workers get an average of 12 hours per hour, higher than the national average of 11 per hour"

 

 

but if you look deep you find..................

 

"yea, sure, but only because 10% get 30 per hour, 10% get 20 per hour, 30% 10 per hour and 50% 8 per hour, thus 80% of your workers get below the national average"


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Bring back Honor Tournament with these changes http://forum.us.hero...nor-tournament/


#16 chumak

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:44 AM

I am talking about the game, not the median in nation wide questioning.

If you don't like something, people don't go on 20 people protests per state, they go 20K+ in one city.

If 3 people in each store complain to the company about its product quality, it is negligible, comparing to 30 in each store.



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 06:46 AM

What if anyone who placed at or above a certain ranking (maybe 20? So anyone who earned the 5 skill points or better) would have their daily number of league attacks reduced for the next week? That should at least guarantee that different people would get the best rankings each week






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