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#1 Astral

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:32 PM

Alright, so I am making this post with the help of FaithfulAizen so I will use Faith as an example. So a hero who has been playing this game for 1 year and Faith has been playing for almost 4 years. Faith has been finishing her training and all her energy daily and so Has that other hero. Why should the other hero have almost the same stats as Faith when the other hero has been playing a quarter of the time she has ???????? We have 15 training trophies in each server. Which lets be honest is too much. Teams trying to get trainers away from other teams are unsuccessful because there are so many training trophies. Additionally a training trophy gives 5 training units per day and an energy trophy gives 20 energy per day. How is that equal ??? Why do people that play for 1 year total have the same stats as someone who plays for 4 years or 3 if you consider that the other hero doesnt have exactly  the same stats as Faith. We need to either remove the training trophies TOTALLY or leave 5-10 of them. 15 is too much. Can we please either completely remove training trophies or maybe ALL trophies ??? It's too big of an advantage for other teams and it just keeps on letting 1 team be stronger in each server or 3 considering we have 15. We can replace training trophies with a lot of other options that people already have suggested in the forums.

Why dont we replace training trophies with something like.. 20% bonus coins from your hideout... or 20% bonus XP from hideout. Something like that.. There are a lot of trophies that could be created but yet we keep on letting the strong get stronger ESPECIALLY after the new league was added. 

 

MAYBE another idea would be to reduce the training units given per trophy and increase the penalty again. Maybe do 17% each trophy penalty or 16 maybe even 18 % ???? 


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:41 PM

And to prove a point http://prntscr.com/gtsfb5

 

I believe it would be awesome to have another trophy that gave you a bonus to get more coins or xp.

 

It also didnt help that I ignored my extra training when I was with Star Aliance and Glorious V. It wasnt until I met LittleOne/Priscilla who changed my mind by chewing me out. So yes thank you Ezrealstorm and to Priscilla for butting heads with me to change my mind.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:50 PM

ALSO let me add in that before people say that FaithfulAizen should join a better team.. Top teams are filled with players. Faith owns her own team which is #7 in the ranking list. So consider that too...


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:19 PM

in itself, they are a hot commodity, and those earning them should have a chance to keep them, that being said...................  it is a huge advantage over other trophies, and it should be "stabilized"

 

so there are 2 ways to go about it

 

 

1..............  make it 3 training units instead of 5 per trophy, making them less desirable

 

2 ............ increase handicap, the more reasonable would be 20%, essentially meaning they would never want to have 5 ( 100% handicap, basically even the lowest team might win if that team has no cockered up members ) and a team with 4 trophies of train and 1 courage would be 87% handicap so some teams might not want to have 4, just 3 trainers ................. but most drastic would be making it 25% which means no team wants even 4 trainers, and most probably have only 2 trainers, prefer not to have a 3rd trainer ( 75% plus whatever others trophies give so a team with 3 trainers and 2 duels would be 99% )

 

I think it might work better to make them 20% handicap and 4 TUs per trainer, would make teams less eager to hoard them


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:23 PM

That is actually an awesome idea which I do hope gets added as I know a few teams will start attacking bigger teams


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:18 PM

Please add that on the first of every month; the trophies get scattered through the server. This would allow for more battling to collecting trophies. Hard to just stockpile many of the same trophies. 


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:32 PM

Its a good idea Mahhafoozit. I wish I could like it! But I've reached my quota of positive votes  (y)  (y)  (y)  (y)  (y)  (y)  so hopefully this works :P


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:53 PM

trophies was worse before trainer became 15%

 

at one time DW of US1 had 5 trainers  for like 4 or 5 straight months, and is main reason why the "average stat points" of DW is over 12.5 and the next 2 teams average in the 10s and that is without a few that left DW a few months back, or their average would have been in the 14s


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 03:54 AM

If you are lucky enough to get on a strong team early, you can  have 42 training units a day and you are going to get strong fast. If you spent a long time on a team with no trophies, you will grow slower. Maybe they have already cashed in their spending spree. Perhaps they do a lot of Villians and gain training units that way. 


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 05:35 AM

ES vs FA is not a fair comparison.
1. FA start 3.5 years ago. ES 1.5years but FA admitted she doesn't do trainings for more than 1 year so time gap between them is 1 year only.
2. Stats are obviously not equal. FA is with 16k more.
3. ES like a new player benefit of new rewards in skill points, trainings, energy from 90% of deeds, villains and so on. FA get few coins for all her deeds.
3. FA hunt deeds for a long time instead of looking for best ratio missions with xp or coins.
4. There are few more players in top teams who start also like ES but their stats r lower and nit because of less trainings but because of style of playing. So depends a lot of how a player understand or choose the best way to grow.
5. Yes trainings can do the a difference but not so huge if u play well.
6. Since they changed trainings penalty high teams can easy lose them and is tested but... let's whine a little.
7. All ask for more trainings when was only few trophies now when r more :)) all ask to remove them. I can tell you a sure thing: EVEN IF THEY REMOVE TRAININGS OR MODIFY THEM A GOOD PLAYER WILL KNOW TO BENEFIT FROM NEW FEATURES MORE THAN A LOW PLAYER!
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Posted 06 October 2017 - 08:26 AM

FA does have 15 k more because she is 103 levels ahead ofc she has better clothes and modifications because of so but 1 year gap shouldnt be closed up this fast.. I remember that idea someone said in the past of having each team with specific slots for trophies.. 2 training slots each trophy case 2 energy slots and 2 duel slots shared so each team can have 6 trophies total. 


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 01:32 PM

Please add that on the first of every month; the trophies get scattered through the server. This would allow for more battling to collecting trophies. Hard to just stockpile many of the same trophies. 

 

Unfortunately that's not possible. On inactive servers, like AP, the best team can only attack the second and third team, so it would be almost impossible for them to get trophies. That would be really unfair.


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