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#1 piturcajr

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 02:50 PM

i understand that game developers want to gain money...but it should be an equilibrium for all kind of players..or at least tell to the people that cant afford to buy thousands of donuts to leave the game...in every game in this world first you need to have brain to play it, not money...if you have money to spend go to casino and do it...

My sugestion is let people use brain to play and for the one that wanna play with money make them spend more...
Is frustrating for us to spend hours in game to make honor and one with lot of donuts to pass you in few minutes...is not fair
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#2 Jagan

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:18 PM

The donuts only speed up the process for the most part. I don't have all day to go through all my training for instance. A few donuts and I am done in a few minutes. 


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#3 Lacatus

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:31 PM

Jagan he talk about hideout attacks where can be some abuse by donuts buyers. Maybe a limit/day like in league or spins at casino?

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#4 piturcajr

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:37 PM

no Jagan...about duels in hideout...not in game...donuts in game to make trainings or energy help you only to not waste too much time which is ok...but i cant agree in hideout for duels

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 05:56 PM

not to mention the HUGE amount of time ( which also translates to donuts spent to speed it up ), thus many people have spent HUGE amount of donuts on it, and are already over 70% developed, while the rest are at around 40 to 50% developed

 

missions and training have an "equilibrium" as there is just the energy to start and 4 extensions, or exact amount of train units, so in paper, someone who stays all day can do the same as someone using donuts and finish in 30 minutes

 

there is no equilibrium for duels and hideout fights ( there is however for league fights, there is a max number of league fights per day, 30 if remembered correctly)


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 05:59 PM

i also have 73% but not 1 donut spent...is strategy only..

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 06:37 PM

what is the highest room level?  I am around the 40s only because I chose not to hideout fight so I do not worry about fight bot making, bot storage at all, so they either low levels or I have never built them, low levels are faster, high levels mean waiting a long time, so 2 rooms up to level 18 would take longer than getting 7 rooms to level 10  ( 36 vs 70 )


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:06 AM

what is the highest room level?  I am around the 40s only because I chose not to hideout fight so I do not worry about fight bot making, bot storage at all, so they either low levels or I have never built them, low levels are faster, high levels mean waiting a long time, so 2 rooms up to level 18 would take longer than getting 7 rooms to level 10  ( 36 vs 70 )

 

Based on his hideout, he's heading to the "Wait forever" territory shortly, and is running out of rooms that have short time frames. He'll start to realize without donuts, those waits are going to be much, much, longer. Right now though, getting to the 70s isn't honestly that hard. You'll just need to increase everything across the board, and if you attack well, you'll get far more materials to work with than you get just waiting around. Combine that with the brokerage center to lower coin cost and the fact that it doesn't scale in obscene time frames as the other room types, and it's completely possible. 

 

However 70% time reduction means you're spending over 2 weeks per room to get stuff to level 19 without donuts. Level 20 will probably push between 3 to 4 weeks at that level.



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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:18 PM

What frustrates me and I don't understand why this happens :S......When I choose to attack another hideout, sometimes  It says, "you are far superior than your opponent", then why the heck do I lose (loser) ?? This is very confusing and not right. 



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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:29 PM

What frustrates me and I don't understand why this happens :S......When I choose to attack another hideout, sometimes  It says, "you are far superior than your opponent", then why the heck do I lose (loser) ?? This is very confusing and not right. 

Hmm, tough question indeed. Although there is a slide bar on how many attack bots you use, Example: 10 bots, you are far superior, but 1 bot, no way you can make it.

Another example: 5/10 "almost safe", I manage to lose, or 8/10 "it will be a hard fight", I lose.






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